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EP07: Manifold: Exploring the Layers of Modern Masculinity

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Welcome to the "Uncommon Man Project," where we dissect the threads of modern masculinity, separating fact from popular opinion. Hosted by Joshua, featuring co-hosts Nick and Harry, this podcast dives deep into the heart of what it means to be a man in today’s society. Our conversations aim to provide clarity and actionable insights, not just for the men in our community but also for those feeling lost or seeking guidance.

In today's episode, we challenge the traditional notions of masculinity, exploring the spectrum that spans hegemonic to divine masculinities. We debate the often conflated concepts of being male and being masculine, and why understanding the difference is crucial for personal growth and societal contribution. Our discussion is candid, rooted in personal experiences, and backed by research.

We also bring light to the stereotypes that cage men into predefined roles, discussing how these can be both harmful and limiting. The conversation is enriched by perspectives on how men can redefine their identity and presence in ways that resonate with their true selves.


Questions for Reflection:

  1. What does masculinity mean to you personally, and how does it shape your interactions and relationships with others?
  2. In what ways can you challenge the stereotypes associated with masculinity in your daily life?
  3. How can embracing a broader spectrum of masculine traits improve your personal and professional life?

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The Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom - by  Don Miguel Ruiz

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Joshua Hamilton: Today. We're going to dive deep into the controversial topics that we're going to give some outlines of why we're thinking the b**. what our opinion is and let's be honest. Opinions are ourselves. Everybody has one. but this is I think really important for both the men in our community, but the men outside it as well that Maybe considering things a little bit lost or looking for some clatter Clarity around who they are what they want to step into and what's going to happen stepping into that in terms of their Drive in terms of their motivation in terms of their love life their career and their business.

Joshua Hamilton:right so we've just learned that as possibly thanks to Google four different types of masculinity now, I don't want people to get confused straight off the bat masculine and being male or two different things and we are going to clarify those things today because they're very important, but I'm gonna let Nick pick things off. Would this piece about masculinity?

Nick Vonpitt: So as per Google Wikipedia masculinity is a set of attributes behaviors and roles associated with men and boys masculinity can be theoretically understood as socially constructed and there's also evidence that some behaviors considered masculine and influenced by both cultural factors and biological factors. And as Josh mentioned, there are evidently four types of masculinity hegemonic subordinate complacent and marginal and I've never heard of any of those four. Good until this moment.

Joshua Hamilton: Unbelievable, didn't you? I'm gonna Dodge straight and that point of and it's associated with men and boys. Why is that b* straight Off the Mark? Why is that a crochet?

Nick Vonpitt: I think it ties into that question is Start there. what is a man that entire definition? it was very verbose there's no real answer to that. It's just very out there very nonspecific and I think in the context of this conversation today. Like you said, it's obviously our own personal perspectives. what is a man? I'll go first for that and maybe we can all just share out perspective on each of these questions.

Nick Vonpitt: a man for me is I like a man to a mountain. I like a man to an expression of something That is firm. that is

Nick Vonpitt: very clear within themselves. They express themselves in a way that allows other people to feel safe. They stand for something they take up space in their own way and notice in no way shape or form. Am I looking at very specific functions of this term of man like breadwinner. protector, etc. Etc. Yes. Those are Primal functions, but looking at it from how I see a man in today's world. That's what it looks like when I'm visualizing and seeing him and a mountain like that person. That doesn't mean you have to look like that in stature. That's just what you represent as amen.

Nick Vonpitt: Harry


Harry Orr: So my definition is change and I think this will also highlight the difference between a boy and a man as well. So I used to think being a man was, the hard red type the alpha the guy that's always outspoken. That's very confident. It's very driven. It's always like, when they walk into a room and some of those people are borderline, they go beyond confident, they'll arrogant in a few other things and some of those people also very insecure inside which is something I've kind of learned as I've grown. But now what I think a man is it's similar to what you said the analogy that I've always used is and especially since becoming a father as to what kind of father I want to be is the lighthouse in the store.

Harry Orr: Type figure where there's chaos going around the s*** going everywhere, but you're stable your grounded.

Nick Vonpitt: mmm

Harry Orr: You don't fly off the handle. You can see what's happening. You can be cool can't collected and make a calculated either input or decision or guidance need be and you're just stable in what you're doing and what you offer to people not being emotionally reactive to whatever comes your way. so the people that are in your circle, they know that they can count on you for that whether they're your kids or your partner or people in your influence. They know cool if ships going wrong. I can go to him because he's gonna be my rock he's gonna be able to level me out and talk some sense into me, but also he's gonna be there for me. He's not gonna fly off the hand or be unpredictable.

Nick Vonpitt: The word that kept on coming up when you were saying that was safe space. and that if you look at obviously the masculine and the masculine essentially creates that framework that allows this beautiful creative feminine Force to just lean in and just be itself. And when you're safe you allow that to be expressed and I think on a Feeling energetic level on just you can even see it on a scale of just how you're living and how you expressing yourself and how you're connecting with your wife or No girlfriend or whatever the case may be. You'll start seeing that if you are deeply within your masculine naturally.

Nick Vonpitt: Is going to be more light in our eyes at least she's not going to be asking you 50 questions a day. You're gonna see it being reflected back to you that state of calm cool collectedness safety certainty. Joshua

Joshua Hamilton: So what you guys have described to me? is a man in his message Where I'm like a man someone with a penis.

Nick Vonpitt: yeah.

Joshua Hamilton: and then the next level is Are they in their distorted masculine? and their Divine masculine? and their divine feminine? Are they distorted feminine? and I look at and that's That description of the machine I was like it's for boys and men. I'm like Nope. I'm not a woman a woman has masculine trades and…

Nick Vonpitt: No, no.

Joshua Hamilton: they're important woman has feminine trace and they're important With his penis. He also has feminine traits and masculine traits. And what you guys have described is what I look at is when I see a man and his mature balance Divine masculine. However, you want to say it. But what we see.

Joshua Hamilton: I think when Society talks about toxic messaging a little knee men being children or boys. they use all these definitions and I'm like what you're talking about is the distortion. when you see a guy who is feeling powerless doesn't feel good enough like you'd describe him as pathetic or he feels humiliated fearful. all these elements and then all these things come out of them and anger aggression violence. And That's the distorted masculine people like that's where we've got. there's a problem with the masculine. I'm like, no there's a problem with the distorted masking. The maximum is fantastic. As you said, it's awesome. It provides safety at play provides security and when you have that the feminine comes out to play.

Joshua Hamilton: wisdom intuition vision that's incredible. So when it comes to man and woman, I'm very much lean to biological and then when it comes to masculine and feminine, I'd lean to all those things you talked about the light in the storm. the mountain I think and I'll be really interested in your guys take on this. It's like a man as a physical man. We have a version of it and what we see like you talk about the mountain. He's big he's


Joshua Hamilton: Structurally and physically sound and we've kind of looked to all those archetypes in the past how they physically shop Superman all of those guys muscular really big guys, and I think society's taking that and said, okay, that's the masculine. I'm like, no, that's a physical man. What are those traits behind that?

Joshua Hamilton: That anyone can choose to have no matter what their size. Whether they're a shaped leg cyclist, myself. Or a giant bodybuilding guy who's got massive picks or a leader at the top of a Fortune 500 company. Or a dad at home stay at home, Dad. What are the aspects in that you guys see?

Joshua Hamilton: that you think aren't described all that people misinterpret for the problems with the world with the Distortion or the problems with the world masculinity or they just lump it all in the problems with the world with men.

Nick Vonpitt: And it's easy just generalizing and saying this is the general consensus. This is the Problem without being specific because then you don't have to actually think.

Nick Vonpitt: the word that came up Which I think.

Nick Vonpitt: All men that I've seen that that are in a space of power within themselves. And I use those words specifically because I'm not looking at if this man is sitting and he's a billionaire or he looks like he's the wealthiest man in the room or the biggest man in the room. there's a sense of certainty and presence. that these individuals hold. And you can feel it's a little bit more, clear when you step into a room. You can feel like that person is sitting there other people. you have a conversation. Or there's just something different and that they hold themselves. It's a way that they stand it's the way that they look there's

Nick Vonpitt: there's a way in which they express and live their lives and I think Harry you touched on it. It's if they're not reactive. They respond. And I've noticed those traits. much at the Forefront I don't even say in control. They'll just always calm. No matter what's been thrown their way. you've never seen them just throw their hands up. It's Okay, I will deal with this or kids crying that they relaxed as they step in and into that space of being a present parent or their wife needs something. They're not complaining about the wife. they got I am happy to support and nurture you or whatever the case may be. It's just how they move through life. it literally is like a lighthouse and they just

Nick Vonpitt: And it's unwavering as they move through that and I think we've all come across people like that on all walks of life via from a principal at school or school teacher and…

Joshua Hamilton: I think you hit one of the biggest buttons on the head right?

Nick Vonpitt: an average dad that's got, a standard 95 to an incredible owner of a Forbes 500 company whatever the case may be you find that these traits are very similar and…

Joshua Hamilton: There is the mature masculine doesn't look for that external validation his true to himself and true in himself. So it doesn't matter Forbes 400 start home debt,…

Nick Vonpitt: it by no means does the external,…

Joshua Hamilton: there is no judgment.

Nick Vonpitt: you…

Nick Vonpitt: validation of those traits mean anything about that person no matter where they spaced in their lives.

Joshua Hamilton: not the medicine that is so Important and…

Joshua Hamilton: think it leads to the importance of the pedestal and…

Nick Vonpitt: It's just as important…

Joshua Hamilton: the pet. That people often find themselves and…

Nick Vonpitt: because there's a ripple that's felt.

Joshua Hamilton: when they put people on a pedestal they put themselves in a pit. It's like …

Harry Orr: but

Joshua Hamilton: I'm not good enough because XYZ and you start moving into the distorted masculine. Harry

Nick Vonpitt: No.

Harry Orr: I'll just say and I'm sure other people would be like this in the past as well.


Nick Vonpitt: No.

Harry Orr: When you put those people on the pedestal you think I want to be like him. So what does he have? He's got a billion dollars in the back. He can deadly f**** 300 kilos. He's got this amazing physique. He's got this thing and they look at the external things that that person has and seek to achieve those things thinking that if I achieve that thing then I will be like him. I will have the confidence of that because I have the power I'll have the whatever trait that you find so admirable about that person. And so they seek that Validation or stimulus right? I definitely been there and so it's Easy to say but it's also much harder to do it also scary. But when you then flip those it's nothing to do with those things. as he said You can still be in your masculine. You can still be those things being a home diet.

Harry Orr: Or you still running a billion dollar company, you can be either but it's not because of those trades that make you that way because of who you are and those things eternally right so

Nick Vonpitt: Just out of curiosity. So everyone here going through this experience. He's setting where you are. you have a clear idea of Masculinity means to you and what your experience of it is when you started trying to Define that for yourself. How easy was it? to Pick up and maybe verbalize or have these things modeled to you in a way.

Joshua Hamilton: have base

Nick Vonpitt: That's what they mean versus what you've just expressed there. it's it because right now you look at kids. And you look at how they've been brought up and I see a time and time again because you spend time with debt you spend time with other men that maybe have older kids. It' It's all external based. They don't look at the worth of person and the individual.

Harry Orr: But that's a big thing of nice guy syndrome, right you do things because you want to like you if I do these things for you, you will love me. You will sleep with me. You will employ me.

Nick Vonpitt: And then they…

Harry Orr: You will do these things.

Nick Vonpitt: what essentially…

Harry Orr: If I hold up this end of the bargain having these covert contracts and…

Nick Vonpitt: what they doing is they're saying you are only valuable and…

Harry Orr: then you get frustrated when and…

Nick Vonpitt: this is where the Distortion I think is as man and…

Harry Orr: resentful when people don't Hold up there into the bug…

Nick Vonpitt: masculinity as a whole comes in.

Harry Orr: but I give these things for you.

Nick Vonpitt: You're only valuable when you're** successful.

Harry Orr: Why won't you sleep with me?

Nick Vonpitt: You're only valuable when you do this,…

Harry Orr: Why didn't I get that promotion? right Yeah.

Nick Vonpitt: You're only valuable when you've got your only valuable and You're only validated by society when you achieve these. Unrealistic** standards that only a small percentage of people achieve but that would be impossible if there weren't normal people holding Society up as a whole.

Nick Vonpitt: is

Harry Orr: And then I get affection.

Joshua Hamilton: 

Joshua Hamilton: with that I want to throw a cat amongst the pungent pigeons because you just talked about everything transactional and what kind of society do we live in capital? That's right we go for more.

Nick Vonpitt: Transactional so here's the thing.

Joshua Hamilton: What you have these people who hate capitalism.

Nick Vonpitt: So then the bigger question is and…

Joshua Hamilton: What are they socio capitalism?

Nick Vonpitt: I'm going on a small tangent here, but now it's the thing of so with masculinity on how it's been portrayed is that we only receive love when there's a transaction involved.

Nick Vonpitt: That makes me uncomfortable. So in your mind right now probably 99% of the people listening have set with us. You only feel valued worthy and loved when you** do something and when it's seen. Because then you deemed as you're worthy. It's the same f***** principle that When little boys get to a certain age their parents stop giving them affection to the same degree…


Joshua Hamilton: Right, you see something happening down the street that you don't agree with it doesn't help Society violence some beating up on someone thieving or doing whatever.

Nick Vonpitt: because you're a boy now.

Joshua Hamilton: a man in his masculine shore of himself Will stop that action from happening.

Nick Vonpitt: You need to be a man.

Nick Vonpitt: How does that work?

Joshua Hamilton: We'll speak up. We'll say no,…

Joshua Hamilton: that's not the behavior. We accept in this Society. So what happens in that behavior stops?

Nick Vonpitt: How does that work?

Nick Vonpitt: 

Joshua Hamilton: So at the moment we have these relationships where women are complaining about me and Men complaining about everybody complaining about society and capitalism all these things and it's like hang on. You're saying it's the men's fault the masculine's fault, but it's the Distortion. That's the issue if you have strong men. What happens in society?

Joshua Hamilton: People don't step outside the boundaries as much people stay in line with their Community with their rules with their structure with their values. So what happens do we all go chasing The chicks with the big tits and six more girlfriends. No, because that's a transactional. Aspect that is the distortion. When you're in your true masculine, which is then obviously you get to the true feminine. You value all these aspects that we're talking about the Not the doing and having you value the being. And that's a massive shift.

Harry Orr: the hard part

Harry Orr: the hard part then for the guys that are trying to step into that masculine that don't have that in as part of their strong core being like I want to step into that but they're not quite sure yet in that I situation where they see something in the street now not only do they have trying to step into that basket. They now also have to go against human psychology of doing what everybody else is doing right you listen to some of those studies that they did in London about human psychology. They literally had this group of people sits in a freaking room and there were five paid actors and one normal person. That was the study and they were all filling out this test and out of this room to enter the room that will pump me smoking to it. it was a fire it was a f*** Lotus smoke and the paid actors, of course sat there just kept doing their thing and to see how the other person would react if they would get up and f*** you guys you can die here. They sat there long enough to die from the fuse every single person that

Harry Orr: Studied because they didn't want to go against the group. They wanted to be the same as everybody else, right? So now when you've got all these people that are acting From being a boy or from the distorted masculine or from whatever other trade it is. You've now gonna overcome being different. As well as that change, which is not easy. right

Joshua Hamilton: That's what a scary place to come from where your natural environment. Is the distorted? Where you miss out on all of those?

Nick Vonpitt: Yep.

Joshua Hamilton: I guess from that position. What do you guys reckon is the biggest? Action or change somebody can to make it more comfortable The Divine mascular To be their light it's when you say lighthouses literally to step into the light.

Nick Vonpitt: I think it's that whole journey of just coming to terms with yourself. to be honest

Nick Vonpitt: We talk a lot about accountability and responsibility. and choices on a surface level it sounds yeah, I mean that's obvious but actually looking at it and saying this has meaning going a level deeper. There's a book by Don Miguel Ruiz called The Four Agreements. and I've used that as a guidepost for a lot of men that are sitting in the space and I'll just looking for Direction essentially and The Four Agreements follows the first one is to not take anything personally. a lot of men find that they end up being in a very distorted state.


Nick Vonpitt: Because everything feels personal Everything feels like an attack, but when you're taking things personally or someone taking accountability very things, personal and it's attack on you. The next one is being impeccable with your word. So When you say something do it.

Nick Vonpitt: Once upon a time a handshake looking someone in the eye and saying I will do this or I agree to this it meant something. Nowadays, it's like I forgot that I said that. Its it and that just chose a level of commitment that you have to yourself and to how much actually trust what you say.

Nick Vonpitt: the next one is to not make assumptions. And that on its own will stop you from fighting with the world and your partner. So you assuming that you're worthless you're assuming that you're not good enough assuming that How is it possible for someone else? It's because they've questioned everything. They've been curious enough and that thing that you talked about like that unyielding will to grow to expand the challenge that's amazing. That's part of your experience as a masculine. And that's part of the journey you do need struggle you do need pain, but it's how you look at it. Is that a catalyst or is it a wait? And the last one and I think that this is where a lot of men who are stuck in that performative culture it gets stuck. It's always doing your best.

Nick Vonpitt: your not the best of what other people are doing, but can you say and look yourself in the eye and say you're not made you've done a great job like you gave it all I know you came dead last in that race. But you trained your context of your life is different Baba whatever the case is you're not invalidating your experience, but you can look yourself and actually not I've done my best here, but I can always do better I can improve. This is Not my best tomorrow. And I think that just is maybe as a guiding force to start this journey towards deepening. Your own perspective and understanding of yourself. If you can start applying those four rules, your life will get a hell of a life like an easier.

Nick Vonpitt: And you'll have a lot more space to cultivate presence and self-awareness within yourself because all those principles tie in control reactivity Choice responsibility accountability. and presence

Joshua Hamilton: What about you Harry?

Harry Orr: but I wish I'd read that book.

Harry Orr: Thank you. It's gonna shame on case of shipping. Just got curl up. He can just block me now.

Harry Orr: what's I wish I read that book about few years ago, but what it helped me was Nick said that's self-evaluation and then seeing okay just taking a general consensus of some of people that do talk about. what it is to be masculine things like that. What are some of those traits that it kind of stand out for me and for me it was things like control being decisive at certain uncertainty was a big one for me. And so even just starting with those two. Just doing some self-reflection and looking at kind of my life and the way that I am carrying myself the way that I'm representing myself to other people. Where am I incongruent with some of those things?

Harry Orr: So where am I losing control where my vehicle emotionally where am I reactive to things that don't worry that kind of reaction where am I not so disciplined where I feel like I can be better and then when it comes to decisive this has been a huge one for me and I think you guys might resonate with this as well having partners that have run their own business and perhaps spent a lot of their working day in that masculine energy, making decisions like running the show and then they come home. And when you've been doing the same running your thing and you come home and everyone's tired, everyone's burnt out. Nobody wants to make it decision of what we have for dinner what we do on the weekend or anything like that. And so just making decisions in that space. It's been massive for me

Harry Orr: and then the transition from being a nice guy of when someone trying to guess what I think they want to hear as my answer of saying what I want or I don't know hoping to just please the other person. scrapping that step. I just going straight to cool. This is what we're having for dinner. This is what we're doing on the weekend doing that kind of thing. And as you said before it allows it takes That decision-making that element of her brain gets to kind of switch off. sweet Harrison's got it sorted. I don't have to make decisions. I can just follow I can just be in my family and I just come along for the ride and like you said. She just opens up. But because I've taken control. I'm the lighthouse in the storm and looking after everything.


Harry Orr: so that has been massive for me in shifting from the noise guys syndrome more of a boy into on transitioned into What's your experience in that Joshua?

Joshua Hamilton: okay, in terms of going into the masculine and having the most impact on me. It's really funny because When you're in the other side when you're in the distorted or the weakling Prince or whatever it is that you to call it. You don't want this what I'm about to share because it shines a light on all the pieces of you but you don't want to admit so I am like the things that has had the biggest change of me is environment.

Harry Orr: UA

Joshua Hamilton: But before I didn't like competition. But technically I wanted to be competitive. I was just worried about being a little b**** and losing so because I made it personal about myself losing meant and I was weak meaning that I wasn't good enough all those things. So I shied away from going into the big boys pond. Understand a little boy's Pond and be pretty good, All those things so as soon as I changed my environment. I realized that you're around guys. Who don't care who you are don't care how much money you're making don't care how little amount of money. You're making don't care how fast you run fast you bike whatever it is. But they do care about you showing up the best possible way you can so they call you out when you don't know. I'll use running for an example. You're going to run a race you finish the line. They're like there was a rice band. Did you give that everything you've got,

Joshua Hamilton: yeah. Yeah kind of b**** and they just call you out. That's not as fast as you can simple you don't give it all And suddenly you're around an environment. They're rather than taking the piss out of you what do you need from us? We'll have you and suddenly you're holy s***. these guys. Just want to see me win. They just want to see me do really really well. And suddenly getting into that environment changed the whole game for me and I'm I'm just gonna step it straight into this and enjoy it. I'll call other people out. I'll make sure that's shining their light and not stepping away from it because that's what we're doing. Just doing a lot don't want to shine too. Bright do all those things that's for me environment. and I've got you guys I work in the space every day as we call each other out not everybody has this in fact

Joshua Hamilton: I probably less 10.001% of the world has a work environment like we do. And then even unless have a work environment like we do and they get to work with the guys that we do. our accountability level has to go Sky High because we are doing it dang in day out with other guys calling them on their stuff making sure that they are turning up. To be the fullest version of themselves and when they're not tell job to step into it cut through the stuff be decisive and the masculine. And go man, what's going on? Sounds like you're being a little b**** sounds like that's a story. Sounds like you're not showing up the version we know you could be. and they know f*** and then what happens I'm so thankful for those guys who called me out. So thankful.

Joshua Hamilton: environment for me

Harry Orr: And that takes a certain level of maturity though to be able to take that from a constructive Place knowing that this person is not trying to be a dick. But this person actually knows that you can be better and is trying to help you and as he said not take it personally What does that guy he just said he doesn't care or whatever other story you tell yourself as to why you shouldn't listen to that person's feedback. right

Joshua Hamilton: The First Agreement if anybody wants entertainment, please go to Facebook page and just look at the comments about how triggered guys are about a video. It's Harrison's doing the video and it's just comical it's like these guys take it so personal you have reached through the screen and grab them and said this is you weekly and this is your problem. You're the biggest thing that just take it all personally. it's comical. adds inflamic Monday daily But that's the problem with the world.

Harry Orr: Hey.

Joshua Hamilton: not men the distorted masculine and it's sort of feminine, but we haven't even touched on that yet. That's for another day. But don't generalize and Chuck it on me. but also If you're a man listen to this. Step into the Divine masculine. We need you stronger communities. every time

Nick Vonpitt: Yeah.

Harry Orr: What do you think people can do to find out more about that Divine masculine? what that means how to go about actioning that stepping into that giving their toes into that.

Joshua Hamilton: I have a favorite resource, but I think Nick might have something else as well. So let next year and then I'll share. What I've used in the past for me as well.

Nick Vonpitt: Look at I think we all have these moments in our lives and it's gonna happen naturally where you are essentially broken down to be rebuilt. And a lot of people get stuck in that narrative that now I'm broken now I messed up. This is too difficult. This is too hard. Maybe they haven't seen a different reality or possibility, molded for them.

Nick Vonpitt: look wherever you are in your life right now. Be yours. I don't say struggling you're being challenged financially you're being challenged in your relationship. You're being challenged with your body. You may be being challenged with your purpose and who you believe yourself to be. Don't shy away from those things.

Nick Vonpitt: Your life is your greatest teacher. It's if everything is presenting you with an opportunity to dive deep into yourself and to question and to get curious at Lean into it and the more you lean into it the more you're going to be leaning into yourself. Sounds paradoxical but you figure out more things about yourself. When you're faced with adversity. And you actually face it. And it's not personal. This is just something that's on my plate. That is going to be a stepping stone for me to dive deep into myself to enrich my experience to share with other people. Notebook can give you that. But if you're just willing and open receptive to take the learnings and actually look at what you're learning as you engaging with your life and these moments. Honestly make that. There's no specific resource.

Nick Vonpitt: That I can point someone towards other than look at your life. And look at how you're living.

Harry Orr: benefits the hardship

Joshua Hamilton: Okay, and I had one place that gave me. a nice polarity piece so I could see where I was too much or too little. And I think it's just Robert Moore King lover magician Warrior and it just walks you through the archetype of the king the worry about it all walks you through of the Distortion of the law version of those and I was like that's I see where I'm in the polarities rather than in the Divine and the center and so that for my logical brain. It just gave me some aspects. It's like haha. Thank you very much appreciate. It's still a bit of a deep breath, but for somebody who needs that you can literally look up the archetypes in Google and be like, there's the king type and it'll show you the polarities of them. You can look up and divine masculine and we'll show you the polarities if you need that in your mind.

Joshua Hamilton: Thanks Thanks so much for coming on today I hope that's been helpful for any of the Legends out there. If this has been helpful for you, please share guys. Literally the mission is stronger me and strong communities if we can get this as far as wide as we possibly can you will see less bad s*** in the streets. You will see greater communities. You will see stronger families. You will see better relationships. this is really the deep under the color stuff that's going on that you can Implement in your own life when you do You'll be amazed the that changes in your sex stuff that changes in your relationship stuff that changes in your family life it is a game changer. And if you want a place where uncommon men hang out come join us and our group. We'll put the link in the podcast. Come on over hang out share this be part of it. It's an awesome Mission. We'll see you there.